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  Luke 11:50 Exposes Truth
The usage of the phrase, from the foundation of the world in Luke 11:50 sheds light on the meaning to Rev. 13:8, the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, and more
By Brother Mike (5-17-15; 18 minutes)  

 

In our previous study, The Final Test , we saw that those who believe that Christ atoned for sin at or before the foundation of the world are going after strange flesh and offering up strange fire to Yahweh, which is the same as believing in a false Jesus. Perhaps the verse they use the most to support their view is Revelation 13:8, which states, . . . the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. In this mini-study, we will show that this verse does not actually support their view, but it, rather, supports the biblical view that the Lamb (Christ) was slain on earth in 33 AD. In fact, none of the verses that they use in their support - that use the phrase, from the foundation of the world - support their view, but, instead, they support the biblical view that the Lamb (Christ) atoned for sin while He was on earth in 33 AD. 

Now, as said previously, one of the key verses for those who believe that Christ atoned for sin either at or before the foundation of the world is found in Revelation 13:8. There we read,

Re 13:8 . . . the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world .

Now, does this mean that the Lamb (Christ) was literally slain at or before the foundation of the world as it sounds? Well, not when we compare it with how the phrase, from the foundation of the world is used in Luke 11:50. There we read,  

Lu 11:50 That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation . . . 

Now, if the phrase, from the foundation of the world here meant that the blood of all the prophets was shed at or before the foundation of the world, it would not make sense since the blood of all the prophets was not actually shed at or before the foundation of the world, but it was shed at sometime after the foundation of the world, which we can deduce from the context of the verse that follows, which states, 

51 From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple . . .   

Therefore, in that the blood of all the prophets was shed from the foundation of the world means that the blood of all the prophets was shed at sometime after the foundation of the world; it does not mean that their blood was literally shed at or before the foundation of the world. 

Now, likewise, when we read the verse, the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, it does not mean that the Lamb was slain at or before the foundation of the world, but it means that the Lamb was slain sometime after the foundation of the world, which we know was on earth in 33 AD. So, when we compare how Yahweh uses the phrase, from the foundation of the world in Luke 11:50 with Revelation 13:8, we can know that the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world in no way means that Christ was slain at or before the foundation of the world.   

Yet, given all this, those who believe that Christ atoned for sin at or before the foundation of the world might argue that the blood of all the prophets whose blood was shed from the foundation of the world refers to their blood being shed [in Christ] at or before the foundation of the world, and not at sometime after the foundation of the world. But, you be the judge: does Luke 11:50 anywhere say that the blood of the prophets was shed [in Christ] from the foundation of the world? Absolutely not! This is simply reading something into a verse that is not there. In fact, the context of the verse which defines the blood of all the prophets as being from the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, makes it clear that the phrase, from the foundation of the world in this verse means that the blood of all the prophets was shed sometime after the foundation of the world when all the prophets from Abel to Zacharias existed.

Now, we have looked at Revelation 13:8 in the light of Luke 11:50, and found that the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world means that the Lamb was slain sometime after the foundation of the world, which we know took place on earth in 33 AD. But, now, let's look at another verse commonly used to say that Christ atoned for sin at or before the foundation of the world. We read in Hebrews 4, 

Heb 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world

Here, we are told by them that the works which were finished from the foundation of the world are the works of the atonement, and, in that these works (the atonement) were finished from the foundation of the world means that the atonement took place at or before the foundation of the world. But, as we have seen in Luke 11:50, the phrase, from the foundation of the world does not have to mean at or before the foundation of the world, but it can mean sometime after the foundation of the world. Therefore, Hebrews 4:3 is simply saying that the works [of the atonement] were finished sometime after the foundation of the world, which, as we know, was in 33 AD when Christ atoned for the sins of His elect. So, Hebrews 4:3 does not actually support those who believe that Christ atoned for sin at or before the foundation of the world, but it supports those who believe that Christ atoned for sin on earth in 33 AD. 

Another verse used in an attempt to support that the atonement for sin took place at or before the foundation of the world is Hebrews 9:26, wherein we read, 

Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered [from] the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself

Here, those who believe that the atonement for sin took place at or before the foundation of the world will say that then must he often have suffered from the foundation of the world means that Christ must have often suffered (for sin) at or before the foundation of the world. But, once again, as we have seen in Luke 11:50, the phrase, from the foundation of the world can mean sometime after the foundation of the world. Therefore the verse is not saying, then must he often have suffered at or before the foundation of the world, but it is saying, then must he often have suffered since or sometime after the foundation of the world. So, Hebrews 9:26 does not support their cause at all. In fact, none of the scriptures they use that have the phrase, from the foundation of the world in it support their teaching that Christ atoned for sin at or before the foundation of the world.

As one more case in point, let's look at Matthew 25:34. There we read,

Mt 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world . . . 

Now, this does not mean that the kingdom was fully prepared at or before the foundation of the world, but since we have learned from Luke 11:50 that the phrase, from the foundation of the world can mean sometime after the foundation of the world, this verse is not telling us that we inherit the kingdom fully prepared at or before the foundation of world, which would say that the preparation of the kingdom including the atonement for sin took place at or before the foundation of the world, but it is telling us that we inherit the kingdom fully prepared sometime after the foundation of the world, which says that the preparation of the kingdom including the atonement for sin took place fully sometime after the foundation of the world, which we know was on this earth in 33 AD when Christ atoned for our sins. So, once again, this verse in no way supports the notion of Christ having atoned for sin at or before the foundation of the world, but, indeed, it does just the opposite when it is recognized that the phrase, from the foundation of the world can be translated, sometime after the foundation of the world based upon its usage in Luke 11:50. 

But, although Luke 11:50 is a key in beginning to understand how the phrase, from the foundation of the world should be translated in all the pertinent verses of our discussion as it reveals to us that the phrase, from the foundation of the world can be translated as sometime after the foundation of the world, there is still a sense in which the phrase, from the foundation of the world is pointing to something at or before the foundation of the world, and this is the foreordination of whatever is said to be from the foundation of the world. For instance, Revelation 13:8 tells us, 

Re 13:8 . . . the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world

But, not only does this mean that the Lamb was slain sometime after the foundation of the world as we have previously learned, but this was as a result of it having been foreordained at or before the foundation of the world. In other words, the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world means that the Lamb was slain at or before the foundation of the world in the sense that this was when it was first foreordained that the Lamb would be slain sometime after the foundation of the world. Therefore, in that the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world does not mean that the Lamb was literally slain at or before the world, but, rather, that this was when it was first foreordained that the Lamb would be slain sometime after the foundation of the world in 33 AD when the Lamb (Christ) actually atoned for sins. 


So, in conclusion, the usage of the phrase, from the foundation of the world in Luke 11:50 helps define how Revelation 13:8, the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world can be interpreted. And, what we have learned is that the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world means, the Lamb slain [sometime after] the foundation of the world, which we know to have been in 33 AD when Christ atoned for the sins of His elect. Likewise, all other verses that are used to support the notion that Christ atoned for sin at or before the foundation of the world, which use the phrase, from the foundation of the world, do not actually support the notion that Christ atoned for sin at or before the foundation of the world, but, indeed, they actually support that Christ atoned for sin on earth in 33 AD, which agrees with every thing else in the Bible when viewed correctly.  

Now, in order to perhaps obtain an even better view of all the verses which use the phrase, from the foundation of the world, and which are used to support that Christ atoned for sin at or before the foundation of the world, click on the following link: The phrase, from the foundation of the world . . . . Also, for more refutations of the false doctrine that Christ atoned for sin at or before the foundation of the world, read or listen to all of the following: 

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